In 1949, De Havilland unveiled the world’s first jet-powered commercial aircraft and the world stood agog.
It was a design that had seemingly jumped the fence from the future and arrived with an effortless three-point touch down in the present day. From that moment, everyone knew two things: the world of aviation would never be the same again, and Britain would rule it.
Well, one out of two ain’t bad: the Comet did change the world, but its reign was short and problematic (to put it mildly). Meanwhile, over the water another company was looking on in interest, learning from the De Havilland’s mistakes, designing its own jet with the benefit of that hindsight. It was called the 707, it went into service nearly 10 years after the Comet first flew and Boeing has ruled the skies ever since.
Sixty years later, the automotive world finds itself contemplating no less great an upheaval in its own future. Then as now we know the change is coming, and that for us the future is powered not by turbojets but electric motors. The difference now is that Britain’s been playing the waiting game while America blazed this brave new trail. And it’s been 10 years since a Tesla first went on sale, 10 years for Jaguar to contemplate what it got right and wrong in that time and prepare its response. And the I-Pace is it – not just Jaguar’s, nor even merely Britain’s, but Europe’s first large, all-purpose, premium electric family car. The opportunity to compare it with the inspired but now fully mature Tesla Model S was not one we could pass by.
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Ravon
You didn’t mention the Supercharger network ?
Where do you charge the Jaguar ?
For all Musk’s apparent failings he alone understood the need for a global rapid charging infrastructure, which has been admirably implemented and from what I’ve seen continues to be enhanced.
We have several electric cars on our company fleet, the Tesla is the only one that can be properly used as a genuine and complete replacement to an IC propelled vehicle, the fact that you completely miss off this benefit in your test leaves me perplexed ?
TStag
Ravon wrote:
Some truth in that. There are a lot of non Tesla chargers out there now. Bit of a mixed bag depending on where you live.... government needs to sort this out and make all car makers work together on this against 1 standard.
jaffa68
At home / work
Most people in the UK/Europe would charge at home/work and use the i-pace for a sub 100 mile each way commute. When they take that occasional long trip they'll take their other car.
But that'll change, it's a bit chicken & egg but as the market demands it the charging network will grow and that'll enable more EV use - further driving the growth, the growth of the charging infrastructure will accelerate and in 5 years it'll be a non-issue. But I expect the motorway services will price their EV charging excessively high, like they do with petrol/diesel, so it'll still be preferable to charge at home/work.
Tesla had to build a charging infrastructure because they only sell EV's. Everyone else sells 99% (or more) petrol/diesel cars than they do EV's, so they can afford to drag their feet instead of lead the charge.
SmokingCoal
@Ravon
Where Ford building petrol stations when the Model T first came along? No, so why is it imperative that Tesla have their own superchargers? To impress those that need everything handed to them on a plate - the typical thicko modern consumer.
soldi
Still Tesla for me
I just don't trust the Jag. Developed in a hurry and sure to have gremlins. I'd take the Tesla every time!
TStag
soldi wrote:
Really? The Tesla has so many reported faults I’ve lost count. Does there Model X doors shut properly yet? Have they deal with all the bits that keep falling off their cars? I mean seriously go check out some reports online. No major car maker I can think of makes cars this bad built. Consumer reports has a great article somewhere.
Then go check out where BMW, Audi and co have been finishing in league tables. Jaguar is at least comparable these days. Tesla aren’t so low down I can’t find them.
soldi
TStag wrote:
In the 2018 Quality survey by JD Power, Land Rover is last and Jaguar is second-last. Every other manufacturer is above them. Sure Jaguar is comparable, it just doesn't compare very well.
I fully believe that the first buyers of Jaguar i-Pace will effectively become part of the development team and will spend alot of time reporting issues and failures back to headquarters.
Fluffs
JD Power Realibility Survey
This is not correct, Jaguar finished above BMW, Audi and Volvo in the 2018 JD Power survey and Land Rover above BMW and Audi??
soldi
Must be reading upside down
Search for 2018 JD Power IQS - Initial Quality Survey (or maybe below if copy/paste works!)
Rodester
soldi wrote:
You poor soul. Those figures are for the US, they mean nothing here on our green and just shores.
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